The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. The District Attorney got this one right. Jerry Browns office. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. Patty is my cousin. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? CHOOSE1s Three Strikes Reform Act needs 500,000 signatures by July 17 to make the November ballot, CHOOSE1 files new initiative to reform Californias Three Strikes law, The First Friday doc premieres this week at the New Parkway. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. Disagree with Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. Patricia Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. Alfey liked to look at model homes, so they decided to stop by an open house that was located at 13810 Redberry St. in Moreno Valley, California. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. While Patricia does not qualify for medical parole, she can still file for executive clemency or compassionate release, which she has already done and which was met with more resistance from Gov. Patricia is a evil monster. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! She is the one who tricked them, first by Look into it. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Warren, who was tearful at the end of the hearing, said she is pleased with the outcome of the case, and that her office was only waiting on the outcome of Allen Prue's appeal. By signing up you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, Stand with us in our mission to discover and uncover the story of North Texas, Jury convicts man who harbored fugitive brother accused of killing teen daughters in Irving in 2008, Irving man admits to harboring fugitive father accused of murdering teenage daughters, A day after powerful thunderstorms, North Texas surveys the damage, 3 children killed, 2 wounded at Ellis County home; suspect in custody, How a Texas districts reaction to school shooting fears highlights discipline concerns, Carrollton man advertised pills on social media to entice teens to buy fentanyl, feds say. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. You say by definition! I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. (Ross Township Police Department). From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. Prue is currently serving a life sentence with the eventual opportunity for parole. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. 2}Wo).hf}~g={g::y]peb78R,;>59_'cuB F4QyU&9G=#0 She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! "So it was relieving to get guilty verdict and get justice for these girls.". Probably by the jeans and the boots. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. It was total shock. One lengthy sentence which goes on and on and concludes with one of my sentences from a previous comment! In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! Did you personally attend the trial? Not sure why anyone is defending her. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. You know whats interesting? Dame Patricia said she was "deeply saddened" to hear of her former co-star's death. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? He tried to claim someone else murdered them and that the night his daughters were killed someone was following them. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? We were contacted by some individuals an agent from Interpol, as well as a social worker from Puerto Rico, that believed that they had her in an adult care home there in Puerto Rico, the deputy said during the press conference. It was like living in your room and getting to go to your kitchen for one hour a day, remembers Larry Wright. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. They broke up in 1993. Flaw in reasoning. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. Thats all for this post. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. Yaser Said was arrested Aug. 26 after authorities searched the Justin home. I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. She won't see them graduate from college. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. No Jail Time for Former Corrections Officer and Friend Who Together Breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. She was falsely convicted of killing her husband when the Los Angeles Police Department reopened a 17-year-old cold case after coercing two witnesses to tape a confession pegging Patricia Wright and family friend Lawrence Slaughter as the killers. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Highly charged case. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. The defense also criticized Irving Police and federal investigators, claiming they did not properly investigate the case or look for other suspects. Throughout the process, she heard many community members waiting for the proceedings to be over. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. But in October 1998, the LAPD established a cold case task force and reopened the murder case 17 years after Jerome Scotts death. Liesbeth Powers/The Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. Jerry Browns office, because of Wrights Three Strikes sentence of life without possibility of parole (LWOP), she does not qualify for medical parole. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. I have never seen anything this egregious., Requests for Proposals and Qualifications, Families to Amend California's Three Strikes (FACTS), life without possibility of parole (LWOP), National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), What California should do with people convicted of violent felonies, The Folsom 6 who stood up for Yogi are vindicated. "There is nothing I or anyone can say to make what you've been put through any easier," Patricia Prue said. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. Its totally irrelevant. "I don't have any mercy for that lady," Blasczyk said, referring to Patricia Prue. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. The prosecution alleged that Patricia called the Katrinaks house from a pay phone in Pennsylvania. She was the one that left Andy! And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? Yassein Saids sentencing has been set for June 4. Patricia Prue also expressed remorse for her husband's actions. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. SHAME ON THEM. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. Jenkins was reported missing after her vehicle was found idling with her 2-year-old son inside. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. You took my family all in one night," she said. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Stop. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. Beautifully said Cliff! According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. Allen Prue told police he and his wife "wanted somebody they could play with," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren has said. Some people are just monsters. Great communicator. It seems so, according to you. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. (We didnt get into the specifics.). I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. Patricia had a knack for writing strong headlines, which won her first place in a 2012 national contest. Wow. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial.
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HUe7C22R>_%m~e5?h The Prues were accused of luring Jenkins, a single mother, from her rural home and then strangling and beating her to death. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. In 1981, Patricia Wrights second husband, Willie Jerome Scott, was found stabbed to death in his mobile home park in Los Angeles. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Search it out and check for yourself. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. According to Arletta Wright, Patricia needs to be driven because she has been legally blind since the age of 16. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Islam Said, Yasseins 32-year-old nephew, pleaded guilty to the same charges last month in connection with the effort to protect Yaser Said, 63, who had been a fugitive since 2008. Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. Patricia Owens, First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods.